Thursday, June 05, 2008
The Debate
Finally a few new people interested in the LAW... More to follow, soon. Just for you all to read and digest. I found these comments most interesting. So I will post them where all can see. Thats what this sight was about Educating some people. If we do not like the laws? Then we the people must change the laws. An until they change we must FOLLOW THE LAW.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
OK, just a comment for all of this crap.One, a lot of the jobs the sheriffs do they get a pay check for and DO pay income tax on! I know this because I worked for a company that hired them!I also believe if you take your self back to law school and start reading you will find that the business law that says off duty police don’t have to register applies to off duty officers working for a security company in that uniform, like a lot of part time police do. But IM not going to spend my day reading that law over and over again, I have a life to live….BUT looking over the places you show, lets see P&C has loss prevention so they are working for a proprietary security company, The mall has mall security and the sheriffs are employed as security, ya know the point is made there I don’t need to go on…As far as the worry that they are using tax payers uniforms and guns and radios, well hey they have them anyway and can carry their guns all over the country (that’s one for GW). Even if they are working for a private company they are enforcing law with in the County of Onondaga and keeping the patrol car in my neighborhood instead of responding to P&C for a shop lifter. Many guys (or girls) pay for extra uniforms, maybe the one they are wearing in the pictures they paid for all on their very own, my tax dollars saved!The fact that they are using police cars, again research has shown that the presence of a marked car is an deterrence for crime, many areas of the country give all their officers cars to take home with them. Maybe they will drive by my house on the way home and scare off a burglar or get someone to slow down on the highway and keep someone from crashing into my wife. You comment about the “illegal parking” just goes to show how little you know! How long have you been in the business again???? A fire lane is designated for emergency vehicles, don’t let the name fool you its for all emergency vehicles. Not just fire trucks and the building doesn’t need to be on fire. Yup! Ambulances can use the fire lane too…. And Police cars …YUP even Sheriffs cars!! That’s all I need when I call the police, the cop trying to remember if it was the Pink Elephant lot or the green hippo… I can never remember what one.…Incase you have figured me for a sheriff, I tell you Wrong again sir!! IM a private security guard…maybe with as much to lose having them working out there as you think you do.Look there is room for all of us here, maybe if you worked together with them instead of trying to find anything they could, maybe possibly be doing wrong, you would see we can all get along. I have worked side by side with the sheriffs and many other law enforcement that work side jobs and things went just fine!! I still have a job that im happy with and id be glad to work with the Sheriffs again some time !
# posted by K9Guy : 01 June, 2008 10:00
Well Sir/Madam, (K-9 guy)The law is the law and these people like you and Vinchs is NOT ABOVE the law. So maybe you need to re-check your facts. I don't believe that Vinch has shown One deputy working legally yet on here and accused them of illegal activity. Vinch has worked with quite a few legal working off-duty Law enforcement and employs some too. Look at the people check the facts talk with him. 80 plus years of law enforcement in there family. Do you really think Vinch wants to go after legal working LEOs? Why they worked with them, they understand them and they train and trained them? One other question have you ever run a security Company, some of them have problems getting their own records straight, check the million dollar cop on this blog he hired cops, but not legally all the time..Legal companies can not hire cops in Police Uniforms its illegal. So who's illegally working Again. Check your crap for facts at the door Please.If you have not noticed I back Vinch. I have read the law discussed the law and like to follow it. It helps keep me save.Emergency Vehicles.. Check the Emergency vehicle law as well and/or the sheriffs own policy on take home cars in Onondaga County.
# posted by Anonymous : 05 June, 2008
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
OK, just a comment for all of this crap.One, a lot of the jobs the sheriffs do they get a pay check for and DO pay income tax on! I know this because I worked for a company that hired them!I also believe if you take your self back to law school and start reading you will find that the business law that says off duty police don’t have to register applies to off duty officers working for a security company in that uniform, like a lot of part time police do. But IM not going to spend my day reading that law over and over again, I have a life to live….BUT looking over the places you show, lets see P&C has loss prevention so they are working for a proprietary security company, The mall has mall security and the sheriffs are employed as security, ya know the point is made there I don’t need to go on…As far as the worry that they are using tax payers uniforms and guns and radios, well hey they have them anyway and can carry their guns all over the country (that’s one for GW). Even if they are working for a private company they are enforcing law with in the County of Onondaga and keeping the patrol car in my neighborhood instead of responding to P&C for a shop lifter. Many guys (or girls) pay for extra uniforms, maybe the one they are wearing in the pictures they paid for all on their very own, my tax dollars saved!The fact that they are using police cars, again research has shown that the presence of a marked car is an deterrence for crime, many areas of the country give all their officers cars to take home with them. Maybe they will drive by my house on the way home and scare off a burglar or get someone to slow down on the highway and keep someone from crashing into my wife. You comment about the “illegal parking” just goes to show how little you know! How long have you been in the business again???? A fire lane is designated for emergency vehicles, don’t let the name fool you its for all emergency vehicles. Not just fire trucks and the building doesn’t need to be on fire. Yup! Ambulances can use the fire lane too…. And Police cars …YUP even Sheriffs cars!! That’s all I need when I call the police, the cop trying to remember if it was the Pink Elephant lot or the green hippo… I can never remember what one.…Incase you have figured me for a sheriff, I tell you Wrong again sir!! IM a private security guard…maybe with as much to lose having them working out there as you think you do.Look there is room for all of us here, maybe if you worked together with them instead of trying to find anything they could, maybe possibly be doing wrong, you would see we can all get along. I have worked side by side with the sheriffs and many other law enforcement that work side jobs and things went just fine!! I still have a job that im happy with and id be glad to work with the Sheriffs again some time !
# posted by K9Guy : 01 June, 2008 10:00
Well Sir/Madam, (K-9 guy)The law is the law and these people like you and Vinchs is NOT ABOVE the law. So maybe you need to re-check your facts. I don't believe that Vinch has shown One deputy working legally yet on here and accused them of illegal activity. Vinch has worked with quite a few legal working off-duty Law enforcement and employs some too. Look at the people check the facts talk with him. 80 plus years of law enforcement in there family. Do you really think Vinch wants to go after legal working LEOs? Why they worked with them, they understand them and they train and trained them? One other question have you ever run a security Company, some of them have problems getting their own records straight, check the million dollar cop on this blog he hired cops, but not legally all the time..Legal companies can not hire cops in Police Uniforms its illegal. So who's illegally working Again. Check your crap for facts at the door Please.If you have not noticed I back Vinch. I have read the law discussed the law and like to follow it. It helps keep me save.Emergency Vehicles.. Check the Emergency vehicle law as well and/or the sheriffs own policy on take home cars in Onondaga County.
# posted by Anonymous : 05 June, 2008
